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Subject: Re: From: "Dan (RL Vision)"

Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 14:07:26 +0200

I've had a look at the images you sent me now (sorry for the delay). I can't see any problems, but I'm not sure what to look for. I've included the logs so you can see for yourself.

When talking about color profiles I assume that you are talking about the ICC profile. One of the files does not have a ICC tag to begin with. The other one does, and ETR leaves it behind just as intended if you do like I wrote in my last letter.

I'm not sure what to look for at the facebook pages. Please tell me.

Make sure that this is a problem that happens only after you run it through ETR and not otherwise. Perhaps it's facebook that is the problem, since they also process the images?

// Dan



[System] FileName : After ETR without deleting ICC
(2).jpg
[File] FileType : JPEG
[File] MIMEType : image/jpeg
[File] ImageWidth : 631
[File] ImageHeight : 900
[File] EncodingProcess : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
[File] BitsPerSample : 8
[File] ColorComponents : 3
[File] YCbCrSubSampling : YCbCr4:4:4 (1 1)
[Composite] ImageSize : 631x900



[System] FileName : After ETR without deleting ICC
.jpg
[File] FileType : JPEG
[File] MIMEType : image/jpeg
[File] ImageWidth : 768
[File] ImageHeight : 1024
[File] EncodingProcess : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
[File] BitsPerSample : 8
[File] ColorComponents : 3
[File] YCbCrSubSampling : YCbCr4:4:4 (1 1)
[ICC-header] ProfileCMMType : Lino
[ICC-header] ProfileVersion : 2.1.0
[ICC-header] ProfileClass : Display Device Profile
[ICC-header] ColorSpaceData : RGB
[ICC-header] ProfileConnectionSpace : XYZ
[ICC-header] ProfileDateTime : 1998:02:09 06:49:00
[ICC-header] ProfileFileSignature : acsp
[ICC-header] PrimaryPlatform : Microsoft Corporation
[ICC-header] CMMFlags : Not Embedded, Independent
[ICC-header] DeviceManufacturer : IEC
[ICC-header] DeviceModel : sRGB
[ICC-header] DeviceAttributes : Reflective, Glossy, Positive,
Color
[ICC-header] RenderingIntent : Media-Relative Colorimetric
[ICC-header] ConnectionSpaceIlluminant : 0.9642 1 0.82491
[ICC-header] ProfileCreator : HP
[ICC-header] ProfileID : 0
[ICC_Profile] ProfileCopyright : Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Pac
kard Company
[ICC_Profile] ProfileDescription : sRGB IEC61966-2.1
[ICC_Profile] MediaWhitePoint : 0.95045 1 1.08905
[ICC_Profile] MediaBlackPoint : 0 0 0
[ICC_Profile] RedMatrixColumn : 0.43607 0.22249 0.01392
[ICC_Profile] GreenMatrixColumn : 0.38515 0.71687 0.09708
[ICC_Profile] BlueMatrixColumn : 0.14307 0.06061 0.7141
[ICC_Profile] DeviceMfgDesc : IEC http://www.iec.ch
[ICC_Profile] DeviceModelDesc : IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colo
ur space - sRGB
[ICC_Profile] ViewingCondDesc : Reference Viewing Condition in
IEC61966-2.1
[ICC_Profile] Luminance : 76.03647 80 87.12462
[ICC_Profile] Technology : Cathode Ray Tube Display
[ICC_Profile] RedTRC : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -
b option to extract)
[ICC_Profile] GreenTRC : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -
b option to extract)
[ICC_Profile] BlueTRC : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -
b option to extract)
[ICC-view] ViewingCondIlluminant : 19.6445 20.3718 16.8089
[ICC-view] ViewingCondSurround : 3.92889 4.07439 3.36179
[ICC-view] ViewingCondIlluminantType : D50
[ICC-meas] MeasurementObserver : CIE 1931
[ICC-meas] MeasurementBacking : 0 0 0
[ICC-meas] MeasurementGeometry : Unknown (0)
[ICC-meas] MeasurementFlare : 0.999%
[ICC-meas] MeasurementIlluminant : D65
[Composite] ImageSize : 768x1024


[System] FileName : No ETR (2).jpg
[File] FileType : JPEG
[File] MIMEType : image/jpeg
[File] ExifByteOrder : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
[File] ImageWidth : 631
[File] ImageHeight : 900
[File] EncodingProcess : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
[File] BitsPerSample : 8
[File] ColorComponents : 3
[File] YCbCrSubSampling : YCbCr4:4:4 (1 1)
[JFIF] JFIFVersion : 1.02
[JFIF] ResolutionUnit : inches
[JFIF] XResolution : 72
[JFIF] YResolution : 72
[IFD0] Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
[IFD0] XResolution : 72
[IFD0] YResolution : 72
[IFD0] ResolutionUnit : inches
[IFD0] Software : Adobe Photoshop CS4 Windows
[IFD0] ModifyDate : 2010:10:14 13:46:46
[ExifIFD] ColorSpace : Uncalibrated
[ExifIFD] ExifImageWidth : 631
[ExifIFD] ExifImageHeight : 900
[IFD1] Compression : JPEG (old-style)
[IFD1] XResolution : 72
[IFD1] YResolution : 72
[IFD1] ResolutionUnit : inches
[IFD1] ThumbnailOffset : 332
[IFD1] ThumbnailLength : 4806
[Photoshop] IPTCDigest : 000000000000000000000000000000
00
[Photoshop] XResolution : 72
[Photoshop] DisplayedUnitsX : inches
[Photoshop] YResolution : 72
[Photoshop] DisplayedUnitsY : inches
[Photoshop] GlobalAngle : 30
[Photoshop] GlobalAltitude : 30
[Photoshop] PhotoshopThumbnail : (Binary data 4806 bytes, use -
b option to extract)
[Photoshop] PhotoshopQuality : 9
[Photoshop] PhotoshopFormat : Standard
[Photoshop] ProgressiveScans : 3 Scans
[XMP-x] XMPToolkit : Adobe XMP Core 4.2.2-c063 53.3
52624, 2008/07/30-18:12:18
[XMP-xmp] CreatorTool : Adobe Photoshop CS4 Windows
[XMP-xmp] CreateDate : 2010:10:14 13:45:38+08:00
[XMP-xmp] ModifyDate : 2010:10:14 13:46:46+08:00
[XMP-xmp] MetadataDate : 2010:10:14 13:46:46+08:00
[XMP-dc] Format : image/jpeg
[XMP-photoshop] ColorMode : RGB
[XMP-xmpMM] InstanceID : xmp.iid:74562A1451D7DF119953A8
509B3C6E00
[XMP-xmpMM] DocumentID : xmp.did:74562A1451D7DF119953A8
509B3C6E00
[XMP-xmpMM] OriginalDocumentID : xmp.did:74562A1451D7DF119953A8
509B3C6E00
[XMP-xmpMM] HistoryAction : created
[XMP-xmpMM] HistoryInstanceID : xmp.iid:74562A1451D7DF119953A8
509B3C6E00
[XMP-xmpMM] HistoryWhen : 2010:10:14 13:46:46+08:00
[XMP-xmpMM] HistorySoftwareAgent : Adobe Photoshop CS4 Windows
[XMP-tiff] Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
[XMP-tiff] XResolution : 72
[XMP-tiff] YResolution : 72
[XMP-tiff] ResolutionUnit : inches
[XMP-tiff] NativeDigest : 256,257,258,259,262,274,277,28
4,530,531,282,283,296,301,318,319,529,532,306,270,271,272,305,315,33432;DD519620
22A257B777927A48DFE1BD30
[XMP-exif] ExifImageWidth : 631
[XMP-exif] ExifImageHeight : 900
[XMP-exif] ColorSpace : Uncalibrated
[XMP-exif] NativeDigest : 36864,40960,40961,37121,37122,
40962,40963,37510,40964,36867,36868,33434,33437,34850,34852,34855,34856,37377,37
378,37379,37380,37381,37382,37383,37384,37385,37386,37396,41483,41484,41486,4148
7,41488,41492,41493,41495,41728,41729,41730,41985,41986,41987,41988,41989,41990,
41991,41992,41993,41994,41995,41996,42016,0,2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1
7,18,20,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,30;80742A3CC249CDD1F544445500FC4F03
[Adobe] DCTEncodeVersion : 100
[Adobe] APP14Flags0 : [14]
[Adobe] APP14Flags1 : (none)
[Adobe] ColorTransform : YCbCr
[Composite] ImageSize : 631x900
[Composite] ThumbnailImage : (Binary data 4806 bytes, use -
b option to extract)

[System] FileName : No ETR.jpg
[File] FileType : JPEG
[File] MIMEType : image/jpeg
[File] ExifByteOrder : Big-endian (Motorola, MM)
[File] ImageWidth : 768
[File] ImageHeight : 1024
[File] EncodingProcess : Baseline DCT, Huffman coding
[File] BitsPerSample : 8
[File] ColorComponents : 3
[File] YCbCrSubSampling : YCbCr4:4:4 (1 1)
[JFIF] JFIFVersion : 1.02
[JFIF] ResolutionUnit : inches
[JFIF] XResolution : 72
[JFIF] YResolution : 72
[IFD0] Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
[IFD0] XResolution : 72
[IFD0] YResolution : 72
[IFD0] ResolutionUnit : inches
[IFD0] Software : Adobe Photoshop CS4 Windows
[IFD0] ModifyDate : 2010:10:13 17:34:57
[ExifIFD] ColorSpace : sRGB
[ExifIFD] ExifImageWidth : 768
[ExifIFD] ExifImageHeight : 1024
[IFD1] Compression : JPEG (old-style)
[IFD1] XResolution : 72
[IFD1] YResolution : 72
[IFD1] ResolutionUnit : inches
[IFD1] ThumbnailOffset : 332
[IFD1] ThumbnailLength : 4283
[Photoshop] IPTCDigest : 000000000000000000000000000000
00
[Photoshop] XResolution : 72
[Photoshop] DisplayedUnitsX : inches
[Photoshop] YResolution : 72
[Photoshop] DisplayedUnitsY : inches
[Photoshop] GlobalAngle : 30
[Photoshop] GlobalAltitude : 30
[Photoshop] PhotoshopThumbnail : (Binary data 4283 bytes, use -
b option to extract)
[Photoshop] PhotoshopQuality : 9
[Photoshop] PhotoshopFormat : Standard
[Photoshop] ProgressiveScans : 3 Scans
[XMP-x] XMPToolkit : Adobe XMP Core 4.2.2-c063 53.3
52624, 2008/07/30-18:12:18
[XMP-xmp] CreatorTool : Adobe Photoshop CS4 Windows
[XMP-xmp] CreateDate : 1980:01:01 00:00+08:00
[XMP-xmp] ModifyDate : 2010:10:13 17:34:57+08:00
[XMP-xmp] MetadataDate : 2010:10:13 17:34:57+08:00
[XMP-dc] Format : image/jpeg
[XMP-photoshop] ColorMode : RGB
[XMP-photoshop] ICCProfileName : sRGB IEC61966-2.1
[XMP-xmpMM] InstanceID : xmp.iid:2430D01FADD6DF11B89BA6
AB2DC87A2D
[XMP-xmpMM] DocumentID : xmp.did:2430D01FADD6DF11B89BA6
AB2DC87A2D
[XMP-xmpMM] OriginalDocumentID : xmp.did:2430D01FADD6DF11B89BA6
AB2DC87A2D
[XMP-xmpMM] HistoryAction : created
[XMP-xmpMM] HistoryInstanceID : xmp.iid:2430D01FADD6DF11B89BA6
AB2DC87A2D
[XMP-xmpMM] HistoryWhen : 2010:10:13 17:34:57+08:00
[XMP-xmpMM] HistorySoftwareAgent : Adobe Photoshop CS4 Windows
[XMP-tiff] Orientation : Horizontal (normal)
[XMP-tiff] XResolution : 72
[XMP-tiff] YResolution : 72
[XMP-tiff] ResolutionUnit : inches
[XMP-tiff] NativeDigest : 256,257,258,259,262,274,277,28
4,530,531,282,283,296,301,318,319,529,532,306,270,271,272,305,315,33432;2BCE99D0
CB95F4F2D6D9211823DAE022
[XMP-exif] ExifImageWidth : 768
[XMP-exif] ExifImageHeight : 1024
[XMP-exif] ColorSpace : sRGB
[XMP-exif] NativeDigest : 36864,40960,40961,37121,37122,
40962,40963,37510,40964,36867,36868,33434,33437,34850,34852,34855,34856,37377,37
378,37379,37380,37381,37382,37383,37384,37385,37386,37396,41483,41484,41486,4148
7,41488,41492,41493,41495,41728,41729,41730,41985,41986,41987,41988,41989,41990,
41991,41992,41993,41994,41995,41996,42016,0,2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1
7,18,20,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,30;0330457DA2B5CEDD2F35FFDC4234CF5D
[ICC-header] ProfileCMMType : Lino
[ICC-header] ProfileVersion : 2.1.0
[ICC-header] ProfileClass : Display Device Profile
[ICC-header] ColorSpaceData : RGB
[ICC-header] ProfileConnectionSpace : XYZ
[ICC-header] ProfileDateTime : 1998:02:09 06:49:00
[ICC-header] ProfileFileSignature : acsp
[ICC-header] PrimaryPlatform : Microsoft Corporation
[ICC-header] CMMFlags : Not Embedded, Independent
[ICC-header] DeviceManufacturer : IEC
[ICC-header] DeviceModel : sRGB
[ICC-header] DeviceAttributes : Reflective, Glossy, Positive,
Color
[ICC-header] RenderingIntent : Media-Relative Colorimetric
[ICC-header] ConnectionSpaceIlluminant : 0.9642 1 0.82491
[ICC-header] ProfileCreator : HP
[ICC-header] ProfileID : 0
[ICC_Profile] ProfileCopyright : Copyright (c) 1998 Hewlett-Pac
kard Company
[ICC_Profile] ProfileDescription : sRGB IEC61966-2.1
[ICC_Profile] MediaWhitePoint : 0.95045 1 1.08905
[ICC_Profile] MediaBlackPoint : 0 0 0
[ICC_Profile] RedMatrixColumn : 0.43607 0.22249 0.01392
[ICC_Profile] GreenMatrixColumn : 0.38515 0.71687 0.09708
[ICC_Profile] BlueMatrixColumn : 0.14307 0.06061 0.7141
[ICC_Profile] DeviceMfgDesc : IEC http://www.iec.ch
[ICC_Profile] DeviceModelDesc : IEC 61966-2.1 Default RGB colo
ur space - sRGB
[ICC_Profile] ViewingCondDesc : Reference Viewing Condition in
IEC61966-2.1
[ICC_Profile] Luminance : 76.03647 80 87.12462
[ICC_Profile] Technology : Cathode Ray Tube Display
[ICC_Profile] RedTRC : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -
b option to extract)
[ICC_Profile] GreenTRC : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -
b option to extract)
[ICC_Profile] BlueTRC : (Binary data 2060 bytes, use -
b option to extract)
[ICC-view] ViewingCondIlluminant : 19.6445 20.3718 16.8089
[ICC-view] ViewingCondSurround : 3.92889 4.07439 3.36179
[ICC-view] ViewingCondIlluminantType : D50
[ICC-meas] MeasurementObserver : CIE 1931
[ICC-meas] MeasurementBacking : 0 0 0
[ICC-meas] MeasurementGeometry : Unknown (0)
[ICC-meas] MeasurementFlare : 0.999%
[ICC-meas] MeasurementIlluminant : D65
[Adobe] DCTEncodeVersion : 100
[Adobe] APP14Flags0 : [14]
[Adobe] APP14Flags1 : (none)
[Adobe] ColorTransform : YCbCr
[Composite] ImageSize : 768x1024
[Composite] ThumbnailImage : (Binary data 4283 bytes, use -
b option to extract)



Michael wrote:
> Hi Dan!
>
> I tried this...perhaps there is some other something-or-other wrong with Exif Tag Remover. Or perhaps there is something wrong with me.:)
>
> If you will, can you please go to:
> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2067582&id=1078454023&l=84dd05e8ff
> and
> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2067584&id=1078454023&l=f3804a63a7
>
> and note the lack of profile in several of the images?
>
> Then...the 4 images I have included here are pretty self-explanatory ...and go in-line with what shows up on Test2 in Facebook.
> I have also tested Facebook on several browsers; FFox, Safari, Chrome, and IE.
>
> Thank you!
> ~Michael
>
>
>
> On my desktop in Windows, in my Image Viewer ,and in Photoshop, all three images look color-corrected.
>
> I have
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Dan (RL Vision) <*****@*****> wrote:
>
>
> Well, what you do is to de-select "all supported" and then select all checkboxes except for the icc profile.
>
> // Dan
>
>
>
> Michael wrote:
>
> Hi Dan!
>
> Another update possibly for your Exif Tag Remover:
>
> Can there be an option to NOT remove the color profile information?
> For example, wiping out the profile severely degrades picture quality when images are uploaded to Facebook.com
>
> Tell me if you want more info.
>
> ~Michael
>
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